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Domestic abuse among Indians

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This entry was posted on 5/1/2006 9:02 PM and is filed under Women.

BY MAYA NAIR

Looking through the mail today (5/1/2006), I was surprised to see an unfamiliar handwriting. It turned out to be one of my cousins who is struggling to keep her sanity while raising two beautiful girls in Kerala. I have helped her with whatever I had to offer on several occasions. Along with the neat hand-written thank-you notes from the girls, I found a short hurried note from my cousin, a note asking me to pray for her and the children. Her husband has tried to strangle her several times, sometimes in front of the children, and she was afraid that he may succeed the next time!
 
"According to the 2002 study, 45 percent of Indian women are slapped, kicked or beaten by their husbands. India also had the highest rate of violence during pregnancy. Of the women reporting violence, 50 percent were kicked, beaten or hit when pregnant. About 74.8 percent of the women who reported violence have attempted to commit suicide."
 
The above quote is from an article, one of the many that have been done by Washington-based International Center for Research on Women, not 30 years ago, but as recently as four years ago. For a woman, the higher the education, the more chance of being abused!
 
That goes against all our ideas of "educating" and "uplifting of women", doesn't it? :(
 
The reason is that women are trying desperately to empower themselves in a society that fights any such change. Does that mean we keep all girls at home and teach them cooking as was done before? Or does it mean that the whole world needs to become aware that threatening and subjugating a woman is not the answer to a successful society?
 
People are suprised to hear that in Kerala, domestic abuse (verbal, physical and emotional ) has increased! WOW, I must be living in a different era!  Wonder who is out of touch with reality!
 
So what advice should I give my cousin? Barely keeping up with the necessities and educating the children all by herself with help from her relatives, should she find a lawyer and try to divorce her criminal husband? Or, like she writes, should she just learn to "not push his buttons", obey and get along even after 20 years of misery?
After all, that is what "good" Indian women do!
 
What about the older child, who has nightmares after seeing her father strangle his mother? She is in eighth standard, at a time when love blossoms in a young girl's mind. All she knows about relationships is that its a violent nightmare. And will society allow her to stay single? Value her for being an individual? Or force her into an arranged marriage?
 
All around me are stories about women giving up after 26 years, 28 years or marriage, heaving a sigh of relief when the children are grown up and leave the house. These women have lost a major part of their life. What if they had a chance as soon as they found out that they had married a criminal? Of course, there are several people living comfortable lives with adjusting and loving husbands who think that its all the women's fault for not making their marriage a "success". Walking in these women's shoes for ONE DAY may make these naysayers open their eyes and run back to their safe homes.
 
The government may have made many improvements over the years to support and empower these abused women, but unless society supports and encourages women to value themselves and their children enough to know when to leave a marriage, domestic abuse will prevail and even thrive.

 

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    • 5/2/2006 10:46 AM Anonymous wrote:
      Hello Mrs. Nair,
      It was discomforting to learn about the sad "state" of your cousin sister. I'm curious to learn what you would say to her.

      As I stated in my comments to your other blog (Indian Marriage - Friendship or Business Contract?) poverty, education and financial independence play a major role in women’s issues. Also I see the lack of willingness to stand up against it when it comes to you fearing the social discrimination.

      I suggest the readers to go thru the links below and get an overall understanding of the issue. The last link is the actual study on domestic violence (sampling from Kerala)

      "Kerala may be the most literate state in the country but it's going to the dogs. And let me tell you the women of Kerala are equally to blame. All they want is gold ornaments, a posh house, good food and rich boys for their daughters. Let us not have any pretence about it."

      Read more in "In The Shadow Of Violence" http://www.countercurrents.org/gender-marcel080305.htm

      Noting that women with tangible economic assets were less likely to be victims of domestic violence than those who lack them, the report cited Kerala as an example. "In Kerala, a survey found that 49 per cent women without property reported domestic violence compared with only seven per cent who owned property," it said.

      *Read more in "Two-third married Indian women victims of domestic violence: UN" http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=56501

      *Women not safe in Kerala homes: study http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jul/18ker.htm
      * --> refers to the study below

      Prevention of domestic violence (Pradeep Kumar Panda)

      http://www.cds.edu/download_files/344.pdf (comprehensive study!)
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      1. 5/2/2006 1:09 PM Maya wrote:
        Anonymouse,

        When you are brave enough to show your face, we can discuss such important issues.

        Maya Nair
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    • 5/3/2006 8:11 AM Anonymous wrote:
      It doesn’t matter who I am.

      When the well known written and feminist leader Sugathakumari says “Kerala may be the most literate state in the country but it's going to the dogs. And let me tell you the women of Kerala are equally to blame. All they want is gold ornaments, a posh house, good food and rich boys for their daughters. Let us not have any pretence about it" you have to stop and listen.

      When the statistics shows “women with tangible economic assets were less likely to be victims of domestic violence than those who lack them” people need to start debating about it.

      Please don’t take this personally. I like the persistence you show in writing about theses issue and encourage you to study the issues in detail. Remember women’s issues are a complex subject especially when you look thru the “Kerala” lens.

      Anonymouse
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      1. 5/4/2006 8:18 AM Beena wrote:
        “Poverty, education and financial independence play a major role in women’s issues” These are not parameters that affect women’s issues only. In fact behavior of each and every individual is influenced by one or all of these factors. It will be equally accurate to say that poverty, education and financial independence play a major role in men’s issues.

        It is not clear what Sugatha Kumari is saying. ‘All they want’ is gold ornaments, good food and rich boys? I am sure that the mothers want gold ornaments, good food and rich boys for their daughters, but is that ‘all they want’? Will a mother give her daughter in marriage to a man knowing that he is very abusive in nature, but who otherwise possess gold, good food and richness in abundance?

        It is stated elsewhere that ‘For a woman, higher the education, the more the chance of being abused’. Does this contradict the earlier statement?

        Statistics without stating the sample size, sample type and percentage of error works like a double edged sword. Such information cannot be used for a probabilistic forecasting. They just indicate the possibilities.

        As one of the blogger says, “women’s issues are a complex subject”. They are results of state of minds, and very dynamic in nature. Read the Kerala Kaumudi of date. It says that Kerala is second only to Punjab in female infanticide! Who is to blame for this gross abuse?

        The issue of abuse needs to be met with head on. It has to start from the mother’s womb.
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        1. 5/4/2006 11:54 AM Anonymous wrote:
          Please read these and you will get a better understanding. I'm not sure if you did that. Stats are very clear statistically significant and Maya Nair's claim is invalid with respect to
          ‘For a woman, higher the education, the more the chance of being abused’.

          Agree it has to start from mother's womb...

          http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=56501

          http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jul/18ker.htm
          http://www.cds.edu/download_files/344.pdf
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    • 5/3/2006 10:13 AM Shreelata wrote:
      Very true Maya! I really wish people (living in their own cushy world )understand that women do not make a choice to be underprivliged or be abused. It is a reality faced by a majority of women in India notwithstanding their social stature and income level.
      As of Sugathakumari's comments regarding Kerala going to the dogs, we have heard this refrain from various people for the last 30 years. The diferent human develpoment indices pertaining to Kerala has not slipped an iota. Infact we have had so many studies made in the past comparing the standard of living of Kerala to that of the US.
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    • 5/3/2006 4:22 PM Madhavi wrote:
      Shreelata,you are contradicting yourself . On one hand you are saying that women in Kerala and Indian society are underprivileged, then again you mention that HDI of Kerala is comparable to US. HDI is a summary measure of human well being. GDI (Gender-related Development Index) is simply the HDI discounted or adjusted for gender inequality.For those who are really interested in knowing the statistics visit hdr.undp.org. HDI vs GDI, these ratios are not flawless esp. GDI which was introduced in late 90s, but by far a good indicator. Kerala has the highest GDI among all the Indian states.
      Why do I see a social obligation on your part to support MayaNair..whether the facts are true or not..your comments after each of Maya's blogs?

      Madhavi: Economist
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    • 5/3/2006 5:16 PM Anonymous wrote:
      And why are you tracking who responds to my blogs; why does it bother you?

      "MAdhavi", how long has it been since you actually stayed in Kerala? How many times in the last 30 years have you visited Kerala and actually talked to people or followed their lives or helped them through it?

      You've admitted that these online studies may be flawed. Isn't it better to actually know a society by travelling there, watching its changes over the years, talking to people, etc?

      On one hand you may claim that empowering women is the answer, but on the other, you denigrate anyone who chooses to speak up if its not in your behalf.

      Fortunately, the future generations will empower themselves and start to make decisions that will surprise us!

      The control-freaks in society will have to go along with them.


      Maya
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      1. 5/4/2006 3:21 PM Madhavi wrote:
        Quid Pro Quo

        1. If you did not want your blogs to be tracked, may be you should not have published it in an online forum for open discussion. PS It does not bother me.
        2. I did not claim to have visited Kerala or followed the lives of people there or even helped them.
        3. I did not say that online studies are flawed. I said GDI can be flawed since it is a new term, but still a good indicator. GDI of Kerala is the highest among all the Indian states. It is a statement not an opinion, how one interprets its value, it is left to the reader.
        4. I did not say anything for or against empowering or denigrating women.

        Learn to stay calm
        Madhavi
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    • 5/3/2006 11:05 PM Shreelata wrote:
      Madhavi,
      If you take the trouble to pay some attention to my mail, you will see
      that that my response was to Sugathakumari's statement about KERALA
      going to the dogs; not about Kerala women. I was talking about the HDI of
      KERALA, not contradicting my earlier assertions about the inequality
      meted out to women in Indian society in general. And GDI is not "simply
      the HDI discounted or adjusted for gender inequality". It includes
      very specific parameters such as "women's functional literacy" which does not figure separately in HDI calculations. It is precisely because of high women's literacy that Kerala enjoys a high GDI - one more reason
      why Sugathakumari's comments are out of context here.

      By and large Indian women face an uphill struggle against societal
      suppression - and thumping our chests and shouting that "we are the
      society" is purely middle class elitism. Try telling the thousands of rural women in India that they are to be blamed for not challenging
      social restrictions and that it is their duty to change society! Maya stresses these points very forcefully in her mails; and yes, I feel a social
      obligation to support her.
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      1. 5/4/2006 3:26 PM Madhavi wrote:
        The contradiction is pretty clear unless explained further. When I said GDI is simply HDI discounted or adjusted for gender inequality, I was explaining it for the benefit of readers who are not familiar with such terms. GDI includes many parameters which becomes significant or insignificant depending on the sample population. GDI can be considered a good indicator if the data collectors and surveyors are trained to use this term objectively.
        I am not familiar with Sugathakumari’s works at all. I refrain to comment on it.

        I did not thump my chest or say that “we are society or middle class elite”.
        I gave the url hdr.undp.org for the benefit of readers. There is a very lively, rational and worthy discussion about the same topic by economists, social reformers/workers, statisticians and others within Kerala, & India and outside Kerala & India which includes a paper presentation by a social researcher of Kerala Panicker. In fact the paper findings support Maya Nair’s statement but it is disputed by others in a more civilized manner because of the flaw in GDI and GEM and its realtion to HDI.

        This looks like hijacking of a public forum by a close knit group who are unwilling to hear different points of views.

        Hence I am gracefully withdrawing myself from further comments.Since you must have the last word as always, please do so.

        Madhavi
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    • 5/4/2006 11:46 AM AnonymousE wrote:
      It is funny to see that long time feminist leader Sugathakumari becoming irrelevant for the bloggers here. Her quoted speech was from 2005 women’s conference. I’m not sure if everyone understand her contribution to the cause and that itself shows most of us are unqualified to talk about it.

      There is not anything in history that happened without struggle, fight and pain. If you expect the society to change dramatically while you sleep, yes let’s wait for that! It is easy to blame someone else (men, government, society) for all the problems and it helps us to sleep well! Like most of the struggles in India there has to be leaders and role models from middleclass and affluent groups (yes, they will get attention and that is the Indian psyche!) who are willing to standup and fight for the cause.

      Look at Sania Mirza for example. Her success in Tennis and ability ignore rude treatment from Muslim clergy made many young girls in India especially in Muslim communities to get very active in sports. Yes courage is contagious and we need more of these!
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    • 5/4/2006 12:16 PM Maya wrote:
      Hopefully you are right - "courage is contagious". Maybe that will give you the strength to speak as yourself instead of hiding behind "others".

      Talk about an empowered "person"! Qualified to discuss SugathaKumari..?

      Hmmmmmm

      Maya
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      1. 5/4/2006 12:33 PM AnonymousE wrote:
        Blog allows anonymous posts and you are unnecessarily getting angry about it. Why does it upset you that I did not put my name or some other fake name? Move on... You need to learn to deal with it.

        If this is private blog and only your friends and relatives can comment on it please state so. I hope you will channel your anger for a good cause!
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        1. 5/4/2006 1:50 PM Maya wrote:
          Oooh, I can see who is getting "angrier"
          by the minute..

          You cannot force people to like you or your opinions.

          Maya
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          1. 5/4/2006 4:04 PM AnonymousE wrote:
            Your behavior is childish! I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree with me. I thought we are discussing about it, but I'm getting a sense that you only entertain people who support your view.
            After all this may not the right place to discuss "women's issues". May be you should ask the NRIPULSE to start a section called "Maya and her friends!".
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            1. 5/4/2006 7:20 PM Maya wrote:
              Touche!

              I cannot speak for "my friends". At least they practice what they preach and are not ashamed of who they are.

              This will be my last message on this blog. You have repeated everything many times over.

              Be proud of yourself and stop hiding behind a facade..

              Love will always win. FEAR and Intimidation will never work.

              Love.

              Maya
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              1. 5/4/2006 7:44 PM Ganga Perumparambil wrote:
                Dear Maya,

                I had a discussion about this issue (domestic abuse among Indians) with one of my friends the other day. He thinks it is women’s problems, so they should come forward to end it, and I see that line of argument in many of the comments here too. I agree with that partly, women should take initiative (and they are!), but I think it is not just women’s problems, and it won’t end if only women came forward.

                First of all it is not realistic to expect the “victims” will have the courage and power to improve without support from the society. (I don’t mean to picture society as a separate entity, just substituting it for us, the people and the norms.) We cannot see it as lack of willingness from their part. Majority of women in India, even after getting education, do not have the capacity to change, because they have been molded by existing society beliefs and atmosphere, where women are considered as second rated citizens or just an instrument to produce offspring and do house chores. The wife who thinks it is her duty to live without pushing his buttons, the mother-in-law who abuses her daughter-in-law, they are all (and they are not minority in India) molded in the same environment, so are the men who beat their wives. Will they change themselves to have a better life for women and a healthier society? I am not able to believe so. Sometimes we may need rules and regulations to help where education and creating awareness do not work.

                The community flourishes and has better quality of life when all the men and women live in unthreatening conditions, and all the people have the opportunity to contribute to build a healthy society. So it is women’s need as well as a society’s need to improve the women’s conditions. People, be it men or women, who understand this and who feel empathy for the less fortunate will try to help them in whatever way they can.

                I admire the courage you show and the effort you take personally to address women’s issues and improve their conditions. Keep up the good work, Maya. Wind gives birth to ripples; ripples become huge waves carrying the power to change. These discussions, comments, feedbacks, and criticisms (and Oh Yes, the anonymous admirers too!) are small ripples which have hidden power to create the change.

                Ganga.
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              2. 5/5/2006 8:08 AM AnonymousE wrote:
                You should ask someone else to read this blog and tell you who is angry and who needs counseling to deal with public blogs. You called me so many "names" just because I did not put my name but never responded to my points and from other comments I see you want to pulverize people who disagree with you! If that is what called LOVE good luck and may god bless you and people surrounding you!
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    • 5/5/2006 5:58 AM RLaxmi wrote:
      Anonymouse,
      The ladies want you to reveal your name bcause 4 them , it is like attacking personality not viewpoints. There will be a bunch of them who will jump to each others' rescue. The names could be (Check the first blog: )Molly ,Shreelata , Swapna , Latha Iyer , Ganga , Beena , Sonali , Nisha, Padmaja , Rajalekshmi, Sudeshna , Kalamandalam Radhika.
      I bet all of them or most of them are not finacially independent, or have career or stand up to their spouses or have heart 2 contribute postively to the community except say YES to their gang leader. They are using this forum to vent out their personal anger/frustrations/cheer their leader.
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